Pound and Waller (“Go dumb-born book”)

[Ezra Pound]
[Edmund Waller]
AG: Then (Ezra) Pound (on page one thousand and six). He thinks it [Waller’s “Song”} ‘s so good that it’s his high-water mark, so he wants a... And, in Pound, it’s amazing, it’s one of the few cases in the history of English poetry where somebody made an imitation that’s really just as good as the original, because Pound’s “Envoi” of 1919 is actually as beautiful, I think, as the Waller [“Go, lovely rose] –
So “Go dumb-born book’ – but was..  it.. you know..  Pound’s specialty was this long.. was quantitative meter,
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Breath Moves


AG: …However, it’s all shadow there, and so.. anyway, what we get from Samuel Daniel, page one-ninety –  Are there shadows that we see?/And can shadows pleasure give?/Pleasures only shadows be/Cast by bodies we conceive/And are made the things we deem/In those figures which they seem/ But these pleasures vanish fast /Which by shadows are expressed;/”Pleasures are not, if they last…” – What is beauty but a breath? – Pleasures are not if they last.

Pleasures aren’t pleasures if they last – they don’t exist unless they.. If they last, pleasures don’t exist, they’re on a breath – … Read More

Samuel Daniel & Louis Zukofsky (on Permanence)


[Samuel Daniel, 1562-1619 ]


[Louis Zukofsky, 1904-1978]

AG: We started with that (the image of “the burning babe“) in the last class and then we went up in the air (and we got to talk about wind and breath on the basis of a poem, a sonnet by Samuel Daniel, on page 189, Sonnet 46 (“Let others sing of knights and paladins..”)

– Well, he’s talking to his girlfriend and has absolute faith in his girlfriend, such absolute faith in his own love and his girlfriend (on page 189, Sonnet 46 by Samuel Daniel) that he gets … Read More

A Post-Thanksgiving Elizabethan Reading List


Reading Assignments

AG: Well, okay, it’s about 9.30 almost. For next round, George Peele, page 183, George Peele – Writhe in “Hot sun, Cold fire”. Do we have any Robert Greene in our book? some Robert Greene.. Robert Southwell’s “Burning Babe” page 186..Samuel Daniel Care-Charmer Sleep“, 187…is it on there?… yeah “Care-Charmer Sleep”   Sonnet 45, page 188. Look them all over, look over Daniel – Sonnet 46 – “Authentic shall my verse in time to come..” – There is a…one other.. look over the (Thomas) Campion, which will be then in … Read More

Six Silver Poets


   [Fulke Greville]                           
[Sir Philip Sidney]
screenshot-2016-11-12-18-59-59[George Peele]
[Robert Southwell]
[ Samuel Daniel]
[Michael Drayton]

AG: For the next session can you read Fulke Greville. Student: What page is that? AG: Fulke Greville.  (And)..Well, page 171, some of (Sir Philip) Sidney‘s Sonnets, Sidney’s Sonnets (176, 77) Song by George Peele on page 183, Robert Southwell“The Burning Babe” on page 186, Samuel Daniel, “Care Charmer Sleep”, Sonnet, (page 187), “Are There Shadows?” (page 190) and Michael Drayton‘s Sonnet (on page 195), Number 61  (“Since there’s no help, come, let us kiss and part”) – … Read More

History of Poetry – 8 (more Daniel and Campion)

[Bartolomeo Coriolano (1599-1676), The Triumph of Hymen, early 17th Cent. Fine Arts Museum of San Francisco.]

AG: ..I’m going to continue where we left off and go back once again to one other poem of Samuel Daniel from Hymen’s Triumph. Daniel was the one we had – “Are they shadowes that we see/ And can shadowes pleasures.. be”. That was an odd, Buddhist-like statement of the late 16th Century. What I’m doing is equating these with traditional Buddhist notions, for those of you who know some dharma, just to point out, partly, how sharp the 16th and 17th … Read More

History of Poetry – 4 (George Peele, Thomas Nashe, Samuel Daniel)

[Thomas Nashe (1567-1601) in a satirical contemporary pamphlet, depicted in leg irons, c.1597]
Allen Ginsberg’s 1975 Naropa Institute “History of Poetry”  lecture series continues from here
AG: (A) little tiny song by George Peele I’m reading these because I guess half the class doesn’t know these things which, in former days, were considered touchstones of English literary poetry, or , what was the word, you know, standard exquisiteness, exquisities, or something –
“When as the Rie reach to the chin,/ And chopcherrie chopcherrie ripe within,/ Strawberries swimming in the creame,/ And schoole boyes playing in the streame;/ Then O, … Read More