Allen Ginsberg and William Burroughs and Gregory Corso in conversation, 1985 at Naropa, continues from here
AG: We should go back to some situation where Gregory is.
WSB: Yeah..er.. well, wait a minute, where are we..
GC: I was where you knocked me out – on the beach when he’s lying down and Peter and Jackie have their bodies beyond compare.
AG: Were you on the beach there too?
GC: I was lying in the at the corner. Do you have the picture?
AG No, it’s up on the wall. Are you there on that photograph ?
GC: Yes, I’m lying there.
AG: I didn’t see it.
GC: I’m there.
AG: We’ll go look.
AG: What else do you remember of that time of that picture?
GC: Well, I mean, that was the one thing you ignored me on – the rest of the shit that you guys are talking about, what you did.
AG (to GC) : We had gone back to ’57 at his (Burroughs) request
WSB: There were a number of occasions at which we were together in Tangier.
GC: Oh the things that happened in Tangier?
WSB: Yeah, I remember the time when..
GC: A lot of things happened.
WSB: Do you remember when Mikey Portman made some majoun with kif with tobacco in it.
GC: I thought that was private between you and I?
WSB: What do you mean? Yeah You were.. you got really sick from that.
GC: I don’t give a fuck!
AG: What was it?
WSB: This kif had tobacco in it..
GC (to WSB): That’s between you and me. It’s none of their fuckin’ beeswax! You see, I’ve tried to tell Ginsberg all his life as a poet. – truth and finkery are very close. Watch out!
AG: Truth and Finkery are very close.
GC: They are, yeah.
WSB: Fakery. Fakery.
GC: Yeah, well, “I’m telling the truth – I saw that guy rob that guy there, yeah”. I’m telling the truth! Great! They come and they kill me for ratting on the guy! – I told the truth!
to be continued.
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