Student: What was that again?
AG: The Chinese Written Character as a Medium for Poetry – by Ezra Pound (or, edited from the papers of the late Professor Ernest Fenollosa by Ezra Pound)
Student: (And also) “Visions of Ordinary Mind”
Student: “Visions of Ordinary Mind”
AG: Oh yeah. Another reference – somewhat similar, but parallel – long-winded, a typescript of a lecture I gave here (Naropa) two years ago  called “Visions of Ordinary Mind” (which you can get in the library – I think it must be in the library here, or down.. [to Student] – Do you know where it is? – I think it was put up here.
Student: Yeah, I think
AG: In the Reference (section)?
AG: Reserve – “Visions of Ordinary Mind” – by me – corollary to those pieces.
My mind is rambling a little. Actually, I’m in a bit of a hypocritic position because I didn’t do any sitting (practice) today and it’s preying on my mind, because one of the things I wanted to do was actually sit every time. And I’ve been sitting through all this, but I got freaked out on other matters, reading (Marcel) Proust today. The conditions of my teaching are that I sit, otherwise it’s ridiculous to try and propose meditation and poetics and not myself be sitting – or yourselves, for that matter.
[Editorial Note – “Visions of Ordinary Mind” (1948-1955) – Discourse with Question and Answers” appears, transcribed, in Volume 2 of Talking Poetics From Naropa Institute – Annals of the Jack Kerouac School (1978), Shambhala Publications (edited by Anne Waldman and Marilyn Webb)]
[Audio for the above may be heard here, beginning at approximately ten-and-a-half minutes in and concluding at approximately twelve minutes in]