This weekend, following on from last weekend, transcription of the 1980 Jim Carroll music and poetics workshop at Naropa continues.
For the two previous segments – see here and here
JC: And also I mean, like, people, eventually, knew where his [Bob Dylan‘s] influences were coming from, whereas they didn’t know where Lou (Reed)’s influences were coming from. Not as many people had read Delmore Schwartz as Allen Ginsberg and Rimbaud. And so, I don’t know, there were certain songs of Dylan’s which just got…I lost faith in, for a while, you know. And then … Read More
Allen Ginsberg’s remarks on Basil Bunting’s lectures continues – see here, here and here
AG: So Louis Zukofsky, in modern times, was the most subtle person working with different measures and with a pure relation between musical forms and quantitative count and he was saying that the madrigal distorts words (because you’ve got several lines at once) and so words are not allowed to take whatever stress is appropriate to them in
AG: So then, the next thing would be the comparing of the time of the steps, the time it takes for steps, or the ratio of times of the steps, to count the syllables. In.. an orderly measure in dance would be the steps, in music, it would be the notes, in poetry, the syllables. A pattern of spatial rhythms,
Student: Is the “one-eyed Ford” something you just made up now?
AG: No , the “one-eyed Ford” is a famous American-Indian twentieth-century.. It’s a great line! – It’s one of the great lines in America .. of the, as-yet, unacademicized poetry. The many many versions of the “one-eyed Ford” song (South-West – Oklahoma, actually – I heard it last year… last heard it (with Harry Smith) in Anadarko, Oklahoma) – “My one-eyed Ford”! – It’s a great … Read More
AG: Some of the ideas that (Basil) Bunting was laying out, I would like to lay out here because they’re just very interesting. He was saying that, first of all, English poetry was sung up until the 17th century. All the poets wrote for singing
including, of all people, John Donne! – Donne was sung. He was put to music by a fellow named Ferrabosco of that era (do you know anything about that?) –
Well, apparently Donne was actually sung. Donne is usually taught nowadays as
if he… you know.. he has one or two
JC: Well, I’m going to play a song that was a great.. one of
..Actually, I’m going to play this early Velvet Underground song and then I’m going to play a Phil Ochs song. For some reason,
Phil Ochs and The Velvet Underground have this weird connection for me. I mean.
they got me into poetry as much as Bob.. well more than Bob Dylan, and as much
as Frank O’Hara
Beginning today, serialization of transcription of Jim Carroll’s June 30, 1986 Naropa Poetics and Music class. [see here for Jim Carroll reading]
Larry Fagin: Ladies and gents, welcome to the second week of Naropa
[July, 1986] poetry summer camp. I’m pleased tonight to have.. and honored and
thrilled to have,Jim Carroll with us, who first came to light at aged fifteen, with
a book called, (an) amazing book called,