[Buddhist Practitioners (students of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche) – Shambhala Training – Land O’ Lakes Seminary, 1976, Land O’Lakes, Wisconsin]
Student: I just wanted to know…like you’re a famous poet, okay?
AG: You’re day-dreaming
Student: I’m day-dreaming, yes, okay..
AG: You see, I hadn’t thought about that, amd maybe most of the class..
Student: I’m thinking…
AG: ..was involved in the subject, I think, at this point..
Student; I’m thinking of the stimulus. I’m thinking about you as a stimulus to come out, you know, you create, you create with your words, you create imagery. You take things that happen. I do that. I’m very similar. I get a flow (my name’s Allen too), I get a flow and I hear it all around, and then you bring it to tone, and then you start from the self, and then you work out – or do you work out – to the self, is what I’m…
AG: Actually, not really. I think you misunderstand.
AG: I’m starting from the no-self
Student: No self. Okay.
AG: Then you’re bringing up self
Student: Yeah, okay
AG: So what I’m saying is we can forget self
Student: Okay, That’s what I wanted to get into
AG: You forget self. That’s the whole point.
Student: Yeah. Forget self.
AG: We don’t have to bring it up.
AG: Except it comes up, like an object, like a microphone
AG: Okay, Allen?
Student: Thank you.
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